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kriadydragon ([personal profile] kriadydragon) wrote2011-06-07 10:04 pm
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White Collar Episode Review

Okay, first off, Neal got a haircut, I'm sure of it. It looks nice. either that or he's even thinner.

Second off - Mozzie did it, so congrats to the people who guessed him.

Third off, mixed feelings ahoy! I can't say that I'm happy. Yes, the treasure thing has yet to be resolved, the show didn't go straight for a quick fix. But... not really happy with what happened. I thought for sure it would be more Neal dithering over whether to go or stay, to tell Peter and clear his name or not to tell. Not jump straight to escape plans. It just... weirded me out that we go from Neal no longer wanting to run to Neal ready to bolt. What the heck did I miss?

The only thing I can figure is that Peter's accusation followed by seeing all the treasure acted as a kind of trigger for Neal. Peter doesn't trust Neal, Neal figures that to tell Peter would only get him into more trouble, he's frustrated, he's tired of his current life, tired of never being trusted, under the impression that everything he and Peter have been through means nothing to Peter, so he thinks "why the heck not?" and decides to take what he has and run.

Or, some of you will say, the temptation was just too much for Neal to pass up.

But it was just such a sudden and easy decision, and it made me really uncomfortable throughout the episode, especially the whole deal with switching out the piece of painting. It all just felt rather OOC to me. I also kept expecting a twist. Not the twist of the plane being used to smuggle the money, but something else - such as, for example, Neal changes his mind or Neal was going to give the treasure to Mozzie but stay behind. The show has a bit of a bad habit of doing this: making you think things that aren't actually happening or going happen. For example, many of us believed that Kate was still alive, that Kate was working for Adler and didn't really love Neal, that Alex was working for Adler, and so on. In the case of this episode, I kept feeling like there was more going on with Neal and Mozzie preparing to run, but apparently there wasn't. But I chalk that up to my frustration with how easily Neal decided to run, and with stolen "Nazi" loot. Ugh, I do not look forward to the fanfic for this ep. I wonder how many are going to have a falling out with Neal for keeping the loot (or how many are going to crow that this proves just how much of a bad person Neal is) *shudders*

(And, actually, it does feel like a quick fix but a different kind of quick fix - getting Neal and Peter back to their tentative relationship. Which I know is something a lot of people wanted, but, again, so sudden and so easy. Too easy, even.)

But, my issues aside, I'm hopeful, because this is just the premiere, and this episode opens up a whole new character arc for Neal. I can see his "dithering" progressing, each episode giving him a reason to stay. I really hope that's the case and it isn't nothing but cat and mouse between Neal and Peter with no development. I like that there was trust starting to form, plus I don't want Neal portrayed as "once a criminal, always a criminal." The show is going to have to make up it's mind at some point in time whether Neal continues his criminal ways or not. Being a Neal fan, I crossing my fingers for the former. I really don't want to see him go through everything he goes through just to end up back at square one. I want to see him have a happily ever after - a legal happily ever after.

It didn't start off with Sara and Neal sleeping together, yay!

The fencing scene was intense. I'm not a fencing fan (apologies to those who are) but that fight was crazy awesome. Neal's a dangerous guy when he wants to be. I love it :D

That Neal set aside his escape plan to save Jones also gave me hope.

Another thing I like about this ep is that we see both men's flaws - Peter's black and white mentality making him quick to accuse (and a bit of a smug jerk), Neal's need for the good life making him cave to temptation. Which I think will make for a good character arc for the both of them. Hopefully, the show won't just be about Neal winning back Peter's trust, but Peter winning back Neal's trust as well, to the point that Neal ends up telling Peter about the treasure (another reason I'm not looking forward to the fic for this ep. There's a tendency to make Peter always right, Neal always wrong and putting Neal in his place, and I really hate running into those kinds of stories).

Finally, what the crap happened to the previews! It just ends and jumps straight to Covert Affairs. No credits, no nothing. *Iz Annoyed!*

ETA: Okay, okay, okay, I know what it is that I felt like was missing - Neal actually voicing his anger and frustration and saying something along the lines of it being time to go. I think the show was relying a lot on show rather than tell, something I'm all for and that probably worked well enough for some, but for me I would have liked a bit of tell, just something to really help drive home why Neal was running and help to make Neal seem less that he was just caving to greed. I do think Neal running is more than just "yay I have my riches!" and I would've liked to have that confirmed.

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to watch it last night but soon realized I NEED to see the pilot so it makes any sense to me.........
All that aside, I find your comments very interesting.......

[identity profile] kriadydragon.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. This isn't really a show you can jump into the middle of. I mean, you can, but you're eventually going to have to go back to season one to catch up, anyway. And not just to get to know the story arc but the characters as well. One of the things that finally got me hooked onto the show, besides the cleverness, lack of gratuitous sex scenes and *cough*Neal hotness!*cough* was the great group dynamic.

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Too bad so many have relegated it to the slash only category when it comes to ff.........

[identity profile] kriadydragon.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, don't get me started. I honestly think WC has more porn without a plot stories than SGA. Thank goodness for [livejournal.com profile] collarcorner *hugs my little gen-only community tightly*

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
**nods** that is what I heard..........they see it everywhere.

[identity profile] swanpride.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Too true...but I'm confident that I will have soon my hundred recs for my gen only rec list, even if I have to wade through hundrets of mislabeled stories. Can you imagine that I just discovered a great story which was labeled by the author as "Pre-Slash" and "M-Rated" - and even after reading the story twice, I still don't get why? There are regular episodes which are slashier than this and the M-rating is more than overly catious.

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you imagine that I just discovered a great story which was labeled by the author as "Pre-Slash" and "M-Rated" - and even after reading the story twice, I still don't get why?


As a matter of fact, I can.....and have experienced same in reading SGA and also LOTR, but sometimes it is just the reversal e.g. a piece of ff which has a rating of PG13 and then turns out to be very slashy which really really bothers me as I do not care to read it at any time........
I still remember distinctly a story that really intrigued me and when it turned out to be anything but that as it evolved I wrote to her.
She never made any change, but another one did later......

[identity profile] swanpride.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I've seen it the other way around quite often...White Collar writers seem to think that "no sex = gen" even if they write Neal and Peter in a relationship. But I have never seen a gen story labeled as slash before...it still puzzles me.

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely, but what puzzles me is why they cannot seem to see male bonding but MUST always see sexual involvement.........
I find male bonding beautiful.........but too often it is dumped in favor of hotly pursuing slash.
It reminds me of lunacy of those who claim loudly that there is no such thing as a male friend if you are a female...

[identity profile] swanpride.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, exactly...nothing against slash, I like to dive into it from time to time myself, but I always roll my eyes when I read a well thought out, well plottet story and suddenly, at the very end, there is suddenly kissing...what for? It often adds nothing to the story at all!

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Or rape.....e.g a piece of ff where Sheppard had been injected with some sort of drug and then turned loose to track Lorne, who had a head start................
When Lorne was finally cornered, Sheppard sexually assaulted him and guess what happened next?
They return to Atlantis like nothing had happened, but wait a minute
isn't Sheppard CO of the Atlantis military expedition and Lorne his XO?????

or

What about the one where Sheppard goes TDY and is accosted in a BOQ, bachelor officers' quarters, by some personnel who hold some sort of grudge......
The writer's lack of any knowledge of how personnel are quartered aboard a base was glaring....Sheppard is quartered in a BOQ, unaccompanied (either bachelors or married but unaccompanied)officers ONLY, but she features enlisted personnel involved in assaulting Sheppard, physically and sexually.
And what happened after Sheppard assaulted ie gang raped???
He returns to Atlantis like nothing had happened...just your basic TDY
Both of those left me wondering what on earth the writer was thinking.

TDY is temporary additional duty

[identity profile] swanpride.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooookay...I'm just becoming very glad that Stargate jumped the shark for me fairly early and that I never got into Stargate Atlantis...

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It is NOT the SGA community, it is how some have hijacked the characters
I really despise that.....and particularly when there is no warning
In the first story I brought it to her attention and she posted a warning, but in the second one she ignored me completely
BUT now it is now longer around so not sure what happened, BUT really don't care.
I see as much hijacking in SG1 when it comes to O'Neill and Daniel in particular.........but never got into it so cannot really comment on particulars....
For some reason slashers seem to believe every male is gay or bi which really bothers me...and they twist and turn a particular scenario until it fits their scheme, not what has actually happened.

[identity profile] kriadydragon.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you imagine that I just discovered a great story which was labeled by the author as "Pre-Slash" and "M-Rated" - and even after reading the story twice, I still don't get why?

You really can't trust labels or ratings that much with fanfic, which drives me crazy. I've read M-rated stories that should be PG, gen stories that were total slash and, yes, so-called pre-slash stories that were completely gen.

[identity profile] swanpride.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I have seen people labeling the NC-17 fics as R to be able to post them at ff.net, and I have seen the occasional overcautious rating (I'm guilty of this myself, everything I write gets rated PG-13 by default, unless I consider it adult), but the among of mislabeling in the White Collar Fandom still surprises me. Never seen this that bad in the Sentinel or even the Harry Potter Fandom.

[identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
OR none at all e.g. as I cited................which is even more annoying
All the terms seem to mean nothing now and they should if you offer
a story and care if anyone reads it