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kriadydragon) wrote2011-11-30 11:37 pm
kriadydragon) wrote2011-11-30 11:37 pm
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The Walking Dead
Okay, so who's watching The Walking Dead and is all caught up, because this show is making me thinky and I want to discuss.
Especially where Rick and Shane are concerned. Apologies to Shane fan but that dude is scaring me, and poor Rick is breaking my heart. But I find what the show is doing with them to be interesting. I mean, for one, here we have Shane going on about how Rick won't be able to survive this world but so far it seems to be Shane the one who's falling apart. Although, granted, Shane has been in this "world" longer than Rick. On the other hand, Shane was eased into it, while Rick woke up to it, and wouldn't the latter be a lot more jarring to the psyche? You wake up from a coma, discover that not only is most of the population dead but zombies, you have no idea if your family is stumbling around looking to eat your flesh - yeah, I'd say Rick is holding it together pretty well. But how long that will last is also a good question.
I find the growing contrast between Rick and Shane fascinating. They're like two sides of the same coin, an opposition that, in a way, creates a balance. You have Rick's humanity and hope on the one side, then Shane's dark realism on the other (I also find it funny that they're opposite right down to Shane being bigger than skinny little Rick). But being the messy, volatile balance that it is, you know that when it finally tips it's going to tip bad. Normally, I hate stuff like that - exploding emotions, things coming to head, and the chaos that ensues - and yet I find myself completely enthralled by Shane and Rick, because there's so many possibilities, up to and including Shane going so far as to try and kill Rick for what Shane will think is "the greater good." Or vice versa - Rick killing Shane for the exact same reason... or in self defense. There's just so many directions the show can go with these characters (btw, I believe this show is based on a comic? Which I know nothing about, just so you know. If the show is following the comic to the letter, no spoilers, please). Then again, it might go the completely opposite direction: Shane finding hope and Rick going dark side. Or maybe the balance stabilizes and they find common ground.
I still don't like Shane, though. Apologies to Shane fans, because, yes, sometimes Shane does have a point on a few things, but overall that guy is scary and unstable.
Walker Sophia... wow, talk about a sucker punch. Obviously there was only going to be one of two outcomes - Sophia is found safe or she's a walker - but her being in the barn the whole time was just... again, wow. Saying it's screwed up doesn't even cover it. And Rick being the one to shoot her... This is why I have such mixed feelings about this show. It's not so much knowing that people are going to die, it's how they die, when they die and how dark the writers want things to get. Because just having characters turning into walkers forcing the other characters to shoot them isn't going to be enough. The writers will create more sucker punches, and I'll admit that I'm a bit of a wuss - too much bleak usually, eventually, gets on my nerves until I can't take it anymore. Really, I'm surprised I lasted this long. But I think that has to do with the show handling the bleak so well. As I said, you know people are going to die and I think, in a way, it helps prepare you. So when that sucker punch does come, it's sad, maybe annoying, but because you know what the show is, neither can you really stay permanently upset. Hope that makes sense. I'm mostly speaking for myself, here.
Especially where Rick and Shane are concerned. Apologies to Shane fan but that dude is scaring me, and poor Rick is breaking my heart. But I find what the show is doing with them to be interesting. I mean, for one, here we have Shane going on about how Rick won't be able to survive this world but so far it seems to be Shane the one who's falling apart. Although, granted, Shane has been in this "world" longer than Rick. On the other hand, Shane was eased into it, while Rick woke up to it, and wouldn't the latter be a lot more jarring to the psyche? You wake up from a coma, discover that not only is most of the population dead but zombies, you have no idea if your family is stumbling around looking to eat your flesh - yeah, I'd say Rick is holding it together pretty well. But how long that will last is also a good question.
I find the growing contrast between Rick and Shane fascinating. They're like two sides of the same coin, an opposition that, in a way, creates a balance. You have Rick's humanity and hope on the one side, then Shane's dark realism on the other (I also find it funny that they're opposite right down to Shane being bigger than skinny little Rick). But being the messy, volatile balance that it is, you know that when it finally tips it's going to tip bad. Normally, I hate stuff like that - exploding emotions, things coming to head, and the chaos that ensues - and yet I find myself completely enthralled by Shane and Rick, because there's so many possibilities, up to and including Shane going so far as to try and kill Rick for what Shane will think is "the greater good." Or vice versa - Rick killing Shane for the exact same reason... or in self defense. There's just so many directions the show can go with these characters (btw, I believe this show is based on a comic? Which I know nothing about, just so you know. If the show is following the comic to the letter, no spoilers, please). Then again, it might go the completely opposite direction: Shane finding hope and Rick going dark side. Or maybe the balance stabilizes and they find common ground.
I still don't like Shane, though. Apologies to Shane fans, because, yes, sometimes Shane does have a point on a few things, but overall that guy is scary and unstable.
Walker Sophia... wow, talk about a sucker punch. Obviously there was only going to be one of two outcomes - Sophia is found safe or she's a walker - but her being in the barn the whole time was just... again, wow. Saying it's screwed up doesn't even cover it. And Rick being the one to shoot her... This is why I have such mixed feelings about this show. It's not so much knowing that people are going to die, it's how they die, when they die and how dark the writers want things to get. Because just having characters turning into walkers forcing the other characters to shoot them isn't going to be enough. The writers will create more sucker punches, and I'll admit that I'm a bit of a wuss - too much bleak usually, eventually, gets on my nerves until I can't take it anymore. Really, I'm surprised I lasted this long. But I think that has to do with the show handling the bleak so well. As I said, you know people are going to die and I think, in a way, it helps prepare you. So when that sucker punch does come, it's sad, maybe annoying, but because you know what the show is, neither can you really stay permanently upset. Hope that makes sense. I'm mostly speaking for myself, here.
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I'm pretty much a Rick girl but that said I think the Rick and Shane dynamic is fascinating. And I do feel bad for Shane (especially when Lori ripped into him the way that she did over Rick not being dead. Though I understand why Lori she acted the way that she did, it was still pretty cold I thought.). And though I don't like that Shane thinks that the only way to survive is by going darkside (and that everything he does is pretty much for the benefit of Carl and Lori and not the group), there's certain aspects to his views that I do agree with. The whole deal with Herschel (sp?) and staying on the farm, for example. I actually think both Rick and Shane made good points. It's Herschel's land, and getting on his bad side won't help matters, but Herschel also needs to wake up to the fact that the walkers can't be saved, that keeping them is dangerous, and that kicking out desperate living people in favor of flesh-eating zombies is flippin' messed up (it made me really dislike Herschel).
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I think that the main thing about Shane right now is that he's holding on to the anger as hard as he can because that's easier to cope with than the pain. The way That Woman is treating him is tearing him up inside and he juse can't deal with the hurt. So he's using the anger and rage to cover that up, hoping he can bury it.
Hershel - I'm conflicted about him. Part of me says that he's right: it's his land, so his rules. But my loyalty lies with Rick and his group so yeah, the zombies gotta go. You have to choose the living over the dead.