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kriadydragon) wrote2016-05-12 07:51 pm
kriadydragon) wrote2016-05-12 07:51 pm
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Captain America Civil War
Enjoyable, though it may be my least favorite of the Marvel movies, which is a pity since I really like Cap. It did increase my love for Antman, though. That guy is ridiculously adorable. I'm also looking forward to the Black Panther movie. I really like that guy.
Further thoughts: The movie did an awesome job presenting both sides of the conflict, yet for some reason I kept siding with Cap and felt mostly annoyed with Tony, and I think I figured out why. Ever since Winter Soldier I'd been looking forward to Captain finally finding Bucky, and it was something I was invested in long before Civil War. For that reason, it was the storyline I had more interest in, with everything else just... kind of in the way. And, really, I kind of think this should have been two movies. considering how much Tony character development there was, it felt more like an Iron Man movie with a large Captain America cameo than it did a Captain America movie. I think Civil War might have benefited more as an Iron Man movie, while Captain America should have focused more on the hunt for, or rescue of, Bucky. Because there really needed to be more character developement of both Cap and bucky, especially Bucky who was mostly seemed to be a plot McGuffin.
I also must be the hand-waviest person that ever hand-waved plot holes. Or maybe it's the author in me. Or maybe it's because of the few Buck yfan fic and fan theories I've read. My sister and her husband jept wondering why bucky continued to run away if he felt so guilty about the things he had done, as well as ran from Cap. To me it made sense. The guy has to have major PTSD. While he feels guilty he can't bring himself to turn himself in out of fear of becoming someone's experiment again. He runs from Cap because he can't face him knowing all the things he has done. He runs because he thinks it's all he can do and that there's no other solution. Bascially, Bucky's a wild animal, the dog who's been kicked one too many times and wants to avoid that ever happening again, which means either running, biting, or both. But I do agree with my sister and BIL that it's something that needed to be fleshed out, which is why the Bucky aspect of the movie would have beenb etter off as it's own movie, I think. It's too easy to think Bucky some coward mostly trying to save himself, then comes his decision at the end which was kind of jarring.
Plus I wanted more Sam and Bucky interactions. There wasn't enough, and what little we did get was hilarious.
Further thoughts: The movie did an awesome job presenting both sides of the conflict, yet for some reason I kept siding with Cap and felt mostly annoyed with Tony, and I think I figured out why. Ever since Winter Soldier I'd been looking forward to Captain finally finding Bucky, and it was something I was invested in long before Civil War. For that reason, it was the storyline I had more interest in, with everything else just... kind of in the way. And, really, I kind of think this should have been two movies. considering how much Tony character development there was, it felt more like an Iron Man movie with a large Captain America cameo than it did a Captain America movie. I think Civil War might have benefited more as an Iron Man movie, while Captain America should have focused more on the hunt for, or rescue of, Bucky. Because there really needed to be more character developement of both Cap and bucky, especially Bucky who was mostly seemed to be a plot McGuffin.
I also must be the hand-waviest person that ever hand-waved plot holes. Or maybe it's the author in me. Or maybe it's because of the few Buck yfan fic and fan theories I've read. My sister and her husband jept wondering why bucky continued to run away if he felt so guilty about the things he had done, as well as ran from Cap. To me it made sense. The guy has to have major PTSD. While he feels guilty he can't bring himself to turn himself in out of fear of becoming someone's experiment again. He runs from Cap because he can't face him knowing all the things he has done. He runs because he thinks it's all he can do and that there's no other solution. Bascially, Bucky's a wild animal, the dog who's been kicked one too many times and wants to avoid that ever happening again, which means either running, biting, or both. But I do agree with my sister and BIL that it's something that needed to be fleshed out, which is why the Bucky aspect of the movie would have beenb etter off as it's own movie, I think. It's too easy to think Bucky some coward mostly trying to save himself, then comes his decision at the end which was kind of jarring.
Plus I wanted more Sam and Bucky interactions. There wasn't enough, and what little we did get was hilarious.
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Your theory about Bucky running makes perfect sense to me. Also, when he refuses to talk to Zemo when he's in that box? Talking to his captors has never, ever helped him before. Nor does he see himself as at all innocent. How would talking help now?
The Sam and Bucky show was an unexpected treat.
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I was just thinking the same today as I was driving home! Tony goes and recruits this kid and for what? To save the world? Nope, to help tony win one heck of an argument (well, yes, it is more than that. But, really, that's what it kind of boils down to). Plus, yeah, he kind of blackmailed him into doing it and I get the impression he didn't really explain anything.
And I almost felt similar about Sam recruiting Ant Man, but technically Ant Man does owe him one after trashing Sam's wings and breaking into the Avenger's base. But Spider Man was recruited simply because he was another superhero Tony happened to know about. Peter was both an innocent bystandard in this mess and a kid.
But... it kind of worked for me in a way, mostly as a means of showing what a mess this all was, and how far both Tony and Steve were willing to go for their cause. Because at the end of the fight when it looked like Peter might be seriously hurt tony told him to stay down and that he was done with this fight, which felt to me like Tony realizing he may have gone too far bringing this kid into things.
I really wish we got more Bucky stuff, because I find Bucky fascinating considering everything he went through. Metaphorically speaking, he and Steve are kind of like twins who were separated into different families, with Steve neding up with the kinder Family (SHEILD) and Bucky the abusive family (Hydra). That's an H/C friendship gold mine right there!