Now that's the White Collar we know and love :D Except for the new beginning. What do you all think? Personally I liked last season's opener much better. The new one is just kind of... meh (and I hate it when shows mess with a show's opening).
But on to the show! So much to love, listed incoherently out of order! Satchmo playing a part in one of Neal's schemes (he does love using dogs as accomplices ;)), Moz blaming poor Satchmo for things going wrong, Satchmo and his big floppy face you just want to moosh, Peter giving Neal free reign to scheme, Neal doing his thing, the book disintegrating but it actually working in their favor, Peter the astronomy nerd with his little sextet El gave him for his birthday. Peter, Neal, El and Mozzie all working together, Neal bugging Peter to come out and play, El asking Peter if he wants to go play with Neal and mirrors (adorable!), El encouraging all the eight-year-old enthusiasm of the boys, things with the loot getting hot, Peter trying to explain Neal's anklet to a little girl, Peter and Neal saving the day... I warned you the squee would be out of order ;)
Fun, fun, fun. Man, I love this show.
I was a little nervous that they were going to have Neal and art detective woman sleep together or something, because any other show that would have been the case within five seconds. Needless to say, my relief was mighty.
The cliffhanger ending was nice and I'm really starting to like where they're taking the treasure arc. You can't help but cheer Neal and Mozzie on, not because you want to see them leave with the treasure, but because you don't want to see things between Neal and Peter become horribly undone. I'm both excited and nervous about how the show will end the treasure arc, because there's so many possibilities.
But on to the show! So much to love, listed incoherently out of order! Satchmo playing a part in one of Neal's schemes (he does love using dogs as accomplices ;)), Moz blaming poor Satchmo for things going wrong, Satchmo and his big floppy face you just want to moosh, Peter giving Neal free reign to scheme, Neal doing his thing, the book disintegrating but it actually working in their favor, Peter the astronomy nerd with his little sextet El gave him for his birthday. Peter, Neal, El and Mozzie all working together, Neal bugging Peter to come out and play, El asking Peter if he wants to go play with Neal and mirrors (adorable!), El encouraging all the eight-year-old enthusiasm of the boys, things with the loot getting hot, Peter trying to explain Neal's anklet to a little girl, Peter and Neal saving the day... I warned you the squee would be out of order ;)
Fun, fun, fun. Man, I love this show.
I was a little nervous that they were going to have Neal and art detective woman sleep together or something, because any other show that would have been the case within five seconds. Needless to say, my relief was mighty.
The cliffhanger ending was nice and I'm really starting to like where they're taking the treasure arc. You can't help but cheer Neal and Mozzie on, not because you want to see them leave with the treasure, but because you don't want to see things between Neal and Peter become horribly undone. I'm both excited and nervous about how the show will end the treasure arc, because there's so many possibilities.
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Date: 2011-06-15 04:17 am (UTC)From:Yes to all of this! I loved it.
Plus I really liked the special guests. The Masterson boys ♥ and Chlumsky (last time I saw her she had me BAWLING!)
Peter and his mirrors and his puzzles and his way with little girls. ♥♥♥
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Date: 2011-06-15 05:00 am (UTC)From: (Anonymous)(Side note: When else did Neal use a dog in a scheme?)
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Date: 2011-06-15 06:55 pm (UTC)From:I've always gotten the feeling that if Neal's entire name isn't an alias than at least part of his name is, because all things consider it makes sense. His real name would make it too easy to eventually trace his background.
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Date: 2011-06-15 06:00 am (UTC)From:I loved the reason that Peter said he trusted Neal, rescuing the little girl. I also love how Neal was projecting all his own angst onto others, not that it wasn't true of them but you can tell that he's been thinking about this.
I recall something from an episode in Star Trek (the original series)written by Theodore Sturgeon, when Spock says, "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting."
That treasure is going to become a lot more trouble than it's worth in fact once both Neal and Mozzie finally come off the high of having more than they ever dreamed of they'll wake up and realize that all that glitter around them is nothing but blood.
But back to this episode, Peter wanting to go out and play treasure hunt with Neal was hysterical and yes, I could see Peter with the sextant and I loved that Peter knew how to use it and the whole thing with the mirrors.
My greatest thrill however was The Planetarium. I love that place and go every time I have a chance.
I really liked the scene when Neal realizes that Mozzie could be selling one of the paintings listed on the manifest. That's so great, that unless Neal somehow gets a hold of the manifest, there is no way they can sell anything.
I don't know but to me, this is Neal's new leash, greed.
Neal never really showed greed before, just a penchant for shiny things, stealing just to prove he could do it but it was never about the money.
So first season, his leash was love.
Second season his leash is revenge and then justice.
Third season his leash is greed.
Neal still is tied by love and I think he's found justice is much better than revenge.
How's this work? Neal realizes that the life Mossie is offering isn't the one he wants either and that the only reason he even started down this path was because he was so hurt by Peter's accusations and he wanted to please Mozzie, be what Mozzie wanted since he had failed to be what Peter wanted?
Okay, enough rambling. Really, really loved this episode.
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Date: 2011-06-15 12:04 pm (UTC)From:I think Neal honestly doesn't really know what he wants now. Adler's death gave him the revenge he wanted, so he is basically in a void. Mozzie is really excited about leaving...he is the one who basically takes care of everything. Neal on the other hand goes along with it, but he also stalls at every step on the way. He acts fast as long it's about covering their tracks, but everything related to the flight itself, he is all "we take our time, we do it right", "I haven't decided on a new name yet" aso.
This time it's less about Neal desires and more about the neverending "war" between Mozzie and Peter.
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Date: 2011-06-15 02:08 pm (UTC)From:Also, Neal really, really liked getting back to normal with Peter. In fact this is the first time I ever remember him calling Peter in on something because neither he nor Moz could figure out the puzzle themselves. Usually if they had problems they'd think of some illegal way to solve them. But to call Peter to come out and play, that was a first. And Peter was so adorably eager and into it.
I do think that Elizabeth's new job is definitely going to be utilized some way unless it's a big fat red herring.
That treasure-cam got me speculating a lot. Neal hasn't been back to the warehouse to avoid suspicion, and I think we've all learned never to underestimate Mozzie. I think that the view of the treasure is on a repeating loop and that Mozzie is or has moved the Nazi loot because Mozzie doesn't trust Neal to go through with running.
Neal is definitely in Bromance with Peter. He would not have felt so hurt when Peter accused him. He told Mozzie he liked it when they were back to normal.
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Date: 2011-06-15 02:26 pm (UTC)From:The treasure-cam is for me a sign that deep down Mozzie is aware that Neal is unsure. It's more or less a bait to keep Neal interested.
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Date: 2011-06-15 07:25 pm (UTC)From:This is what I especially loved about the episode. And not just getting back to normal but, as you pointed out, the two actually quick about working together. I love that despite the issue with the treasure the show continues to develop their friendship.
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Date: 2011-06-15 07:18 pm (UTC)From:Excellent observations. I know someone said something somewhere about this years theme being choices and we're really starting to see a lot of that. I love that Neal is so subtly indecisive.
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Date: 2011-06-15 07:12 pm (UTC)From:I like your theories of Neal dragging his feet. I hadn't even thought of it, but now that you pointed it out there is definitely reluctance on Neal's part.Someone mentioned somewhere about Eastin saying that this year it would be all about choices, and we're definitely starting to see that - not just a choice between Mozzie and Peter, but also between living the life always wanted (even if it will always be incomplete now that Kate is gone) or keeping the life he has now.
How's this work? Neal realizes that the life Mossie is offering isn't the one he wants either and that the only reason he even started down this path was because he was so hurt by Peter's accusations and he wanted to please Mozzie, be what Mozzie wanted since he had failed to be what Peter wanted?
Totally. It's the only explanation as to why Neal was so quick about agreeing to take the treasure and run that makes sense, at least to me. It was a knee-jerk reaction to everything that happened, before, during and after Adler, but reaction that Mozzie continues to stoke.
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Date: 2011-06-15 09:01 am (UTC)From:Loved the episode overall, but there was one thing which really bugged me: The guest characters fell flat. I didn't even know who the guy was who kidnapped Savannah.
And, in a personal note: DeKay suddenly tends to slur his words...a lot. I sometimes have trouble to understand him.
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Date: 2011-06-15 02:13 pm (UTC)From:He didn't want to hurt Savannah at all but he was pissed that when he asked for help, he got advice, actually very good advice but he was desperate and wanted what he wanted, not a means to an end.
I also loved Peter's answer to Savannah about Neal's anklet. It could be understood by her and did not humiliate Neal, even after he only introduced Neal by his first name as if he were a child or a pet or a servant.
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Date: 2011-06-15 07:15 pm (UTC)From:I forget who the actor who played the kidnapper's name is but he's been on a ton of shows. He often plays either a bad guy or a jerk, poor guy.
There is something rather slurry about the way Tim talks. Kind of the antithesis of Matt who you can tell is going all out to be as articulate as possible.
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Date: 2011-06-16 06:08 am (UTC)From:The music is slow, it's boring, it doesn't stay in the head.
It really looks cheap, and, whats even worse, uncreative. A bad copy of the royal pains opening. (and this stone food with the anklet on it looks creepy).
And the gigantic name of the writer at the end...nothing against crediting, but this looks so inmodest. As if the head writer is more important than everyone else.
He played Valenti in Roswell...part of the reason I had so much trouble getting his role.
Yeah, Tim alway was a little bit slurry, but it has become worse. I never had so many problems to understand what he is about before. Until now, I never had the desire for subtitles.
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Date: 2011-06-15 09:11 am (UTC)From:About the treasure, I don't understand why Mozzie and Neal need to run. Can't they just stay in NY and sell it off piece by piece? I'm sure Alex would help. Why are they making such a big deal about them escaping?
I really liked how Neal got the information out of the special art chick and Peter's explanation of the anklet.
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Date: 2011-06-15 02:20 pm (UTC)From:He wants Neal because Neal is really the only one Mozzie really trusts, if he trusts anyone.
Right now, Neal seems just along for the ride. He's not initiating anything and as Swanpride said, is dragging his heels on this.
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Date: 2011-06-15 02:28 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2011-06-15 07:22 pm (UTC)From:I think the reason for not going all out on a fencing spree was explained pretty well below. This is something they have to proceed with carefully. Plus I also agree with what the others have said about Neal dragging his heels. I don't think his heart is really all that in it.
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Date: 2011-06-16 12:27 am (UTC)From: (Anonymous)For Another World fans, it was great to see Richard Bekins aka Jamie Frame playing the ever so helpful planetarium docent.
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Date: 2011-06-21 02:03 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2011-06-21 01:35 am (UTC)From:I loved how when Neal doesn't get an answer from Peter, or the one he wants, he will go to Elizabeth. That is so typical child behavior, no?
And Peter's glee when Elizabeth said yes....
There were some great humorous moments in this ep, but overall - Peter is so reeling Neal in. Slowly, but surely. I figure the DC agent was a plant to get Neal to talk about the treasure and quite possibly reveal that he has it.
I totally agree with what Swanpride and others have said - Neal's not really looking to run now. I think he wants the white picket fence and family, since he didn't really have that much growing up, it seems. If he runs, then it's for all the wrong reasons and I don't think his heart is really into it after seeing what Peter and Elizabeth have.
Neal is the one urging caution, yet Mozzie is the one trying to rush forward. Which, is a very stark contrast from them in the past - usually it's Mozzie telling Neal he needs to be cautious.
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Date: 2011-06-21 02:02 am (UTC)From:Another excellent observation, and one that I think totally backs up Neal not really wanting to run. It also shows that Neal is changing. I know it's only two eps in but he does seem a lot less impetuous than he used to be.