An Update type Substance

[kriadydragon]

I'm pretty sure most of the people on my f'list are either busy writing away or just busy so may not even read this. But I felt like writing it, anyway.

NaNo Novel - It has begun and I am two thousand plus words in. I know what happens next, so hopefully tomorrow will see as easy a writing spree as today. I am a bit concerned, though, as writing seems to really wear me out. Not a big deal unless it means being prematurely burned out further down the rode. I recall being hesitant about simply editing one of my stories because it made me so tired afterwards.

Eating Out - WE ate at what I have now deemed the best seafood restaurant ever. It's called the Bonefish Grill and though it doesn't offer a lot on the menu, what it does offer is to die for (I actually finished everything on my plate), and it makes Red Lobster look like a fast food joint.

Fandom Woes - the White Collar fandom is starting to frustrate me. Okay, so it was inevitable as most fandoms end up frustrating me, but each in a different way. The WC fandom is still a pretty young fandom since the show is only two seasons in, but it's starting to look like how the SGA fandom is looking now - lots and lots of pairing fic and well written gen that is few and far between. All things considered, it's not a big fandom, and I don't know if that's because the fandom is still young or we just aren't getting a lot of writers. Most of the writers all ready there go in one of two directions - well written but focused on a pairing, or focused on whipping out stories as quickly as possible. And fanon kinks have taken over hard and fast. If it's not OT3, it's adult discipline, most especially non-sexual spanking. I try to be open minded and understanding of other people's kinks, but there are some I have to draw a line at and spanking is one of them.

One thing I would really like to do is create a Gen Comment fic Community. Right now the most popular WC community seems to be the Kink Meme and, well, though it does inspire some gen stories obviously what you're going to get with that is a lot of kink. So (for purely selfish reasons ;)) I would like to start up a gen meme. But I'm hesitant since the majority of LJ writers all lean toward pairings and porn, while most of the gen writers are on FF.net, so I'm not sure if the community will catch on. But I suppose there's no harm in trying. I may do this after November.



Fic - Yeah, pimping my own fic again for any who might have missed it. I wrote a little SGA Halloween story - Beastly Things. Bit of a Conversion tag with lots of Shep Whump. Poor boy. I'm so mean to him. Bwhahahahaha!

Comments

[black-raven135.livejournal.com]

I try to be open minded and understanding of other people's kinks, but there are some I have to draw a line at and spanking is one of them.

**NODS**
I find it all tiresome at best.
It is as though EVERYTHING must be slash/kink or it somehow is entirely unworthy. I also see no comparison between slash/kink and whump. There is no such comparison possible.
I am also tired of defending my right NOT to read it
and of being told 'oh but its mild' or any of the other things
they say to pawn it off on me.

[kriadydragon.livejournal.com]

What's really frustrating with White Collar (and that I forgot to mention) is that it kind of messes with your head. All the best whump - the kind of whump I want to read - can only be found in NC-17 slash fic. You have stories that people label as strictly OT3, but they can easily be read as gen (ran into such a story the other day. My plan had been to read only the first part of the story, and to stop when the pairing stuff began. Except, really, there was no pairing stuff. The OT3 part was short, blink-and-miss and could easily be read as gen. Which makes me wonder how many other could-be-read-as-gen stories are out there).

The gen discipline stuff wouldn't bother me except that it's becoming very prevalent. And in gen, I'm sorry, but it's just incredibly unrealistic and, for that reason, very disturbing ("I will now befriend the people who have been abusing me!" Um... no, I don't think so, not unless they have Stockholm syndrome).

[black-raven135.livejournal.com]

I really fail to see where gen includes 'discipline' e.g. spanking etc...........
To me it belongs in slash...........
If I had any thought a piece of ff would turn to something that kinky
I would not even pick up the beginning........
It all bothers me.......but as I said what really bothers me is they
insinuate continually that there is something wrong with ME that I
don't want to read it.
I have had long discussions with some of the writers too who I know
personally.
One who writes to me via email still does NOT get it.

[sholio]

... okay, I'm actually so desperately curious to see what you're talking about with the gen discipline stuff that ... could you link me to one of those stories? I mean, I'm totally with you on the horrible, cringe-inducing squickiness of it, but I honestly can't figure out how a person would even conceptualize such a thing, so ... I want to read one. If you don't mind linking! It's the same kind of train-wreck fascination that makes me click on links my sister sends me with I NEED BRAINBLEACH NOW in the subject line. (Which she knows. And that's why she sends them to me. Because she is a cruel, cruel sister.)

Anyway, regarding the gen commentfic community, you know what I would really, truly love? A gen commentfic community that allows anonymous comments and fills. I had always been incredibly wary of the idea, and I still feel a little weird about it, but when I tried the porn ones this year, I discovered that it actually is kind of freeing not to worry about what people will think when you write and post it, or when you post prompts. I've gotten incredibly self-conscious about some of the stuff I like, to the point that it makes me a bit reluctant to write. I love the idea of being able to indulge some of my sappier indulgences without feeling like I have some kind of "reputation" to maintain.

Of course I don't think the anon thing should be required, but just having it as an option ... you might get more people that way. :D I've even had people write for genficathon who have never written gen before; they liked the idea of being able to play with it under the cover of anonymity.

[kriadydragon.livejournal.com]

Heh, sadly there are plenty of fic to choose from ;) Here's a couple, all by the same author who seems to be a spanking fanatic as she keeps warning for it.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6434360/1/Under_The_Weather
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6356476/1/Following_The_Painting
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6306202/1/The_Lawyers_Wallet

Posting anonymously, that may work :D I may even do that for the SGA comment fic meme I'm planning for after December.

[sholio]

aaaaaaaaagh ... okay, yes, I see what you mean, um, wow. XD *scrubs brain* I think that author is totally fooling herself if she thinks she's not writing lifestyle BDSM, too, because that is EXACTLY what that is. It's not gen. (And you know me. I read a fair amount of fic that isn't gen. I don't have any problem with BDSM; it just happens not to be my thing, in general. Trying to sneak BDSM into a "gen" fic, though? NOT COOL.)

I would love to see how the anon thing works out in a gen meme, because I do think that it might make more people feel comfortable participating, or more open about asking for things they want to read without feeling self-conscious. That kind of self-consciousness is exactly what's made me hold back from participating in a lot of challenges and commentfic memes over the last couple of years; I just feel too awkward about asking for, or writing, the self-indulgent things I really want. It would be lovely to have a space to be freed from those concerns!

[kriadydragon.livejournal.com]

I think what really squicks me about it is that Neal, being a criminal released into Peter's custody, can't really do anything about being spanked because Peter can just threaten to send him back to jail. It's more than just BDSM, it's honest to goodness torture but it's written like it's supposed to be something cute and fluffy.

I'll definitely allow for anonymous posting in the memes. I hadn't considered the freedom behind writing anonymously but, yeah, there are things I've wanted to write yet for some reason never felt comfortable doing so.

[tridget.livejournal.com]

I'm a bit late jumping in here, but I wanted to say an anonymous option gen meme could be interesting. There may be some cool ideas that people have been shy about asking for, or maybe there are people who've never made a request before but would do so if it were anon. I've really enjoyed the gen comment fics this year, so I'm all for generating ideas and stories in that sort of format.

[a-pilgrim-soul.livejournal.com]

Just to let you know that I've put White Collar on my rental list, can only have a couple of discs a month so it might take me a while to get through the first season but I'll get there. Don't think I'll be reading the spanking fics though. *lol*

[kriadydragon.livejournal.com]

Yes, avoid the spanking fic ;) Luckily people do warn for it, though.

It's a really fun show. Not to everyone's taste as some find it unrealistic at times but, really, what show isn't?

[crashbarrier.livejournal.com]

I don't know about other people but to tell the truth I get quite bored with porn stories, mainly because they are really very one dimensional and lack any stimulous to read the story beyond the titilation of the sex. Quite simply the story stops as the sex gets going. It's like having speed bumps in a story. I have read some cracking adventures which then grind to a complete and utter halt for a pointless pairing scene which then completely grounds the story so that it never regains its story momentum.

So many action adventures series.. with a myriad of possible storylines from aliens landing and eating our faces, to criminals stealing the main characters liver and he/she has to find it again.. And what do people want to see/read.. the main characters going at it like rabbits, in what ever way the writer feels neccesary.

:/

I would be interested in a Gen fic community if only so that I can garantee that I will have writting I can read at work.

[black-raven135.livejournal.com]

YES one dimensional like the films etc. which focus only on the sex/kink and
not on any sort of story line. I suppose if you are into voyeurism it is fine but.......

[crashbarrier.livejournal.com]

Thing about the movies though is you pretty much know what you are getting into when you put on the movie.. but with written stories I find myself I occasionally just ploughing through in the vain optimistic hope that it might get better... !!!.. that maybe something will happen...8 pages later...no.....:D:D:D

[kriadydragon.livejournal.com]

"but with written stories I find myself I occasionally just ploughing through in the vain optimistic hope that it might get better... !!!"

OMG yes! I'm always doing this even though I know for a fact it's not going to get better. Then I have to go read a ton of good stories just to clean out my brain.

[black-raven135.livejournal.com]

with written stories I find myself I occasionally just ploughing through in the vain optimistic hope that it might get better.

**NODS*** been there, done that, and it is very annoying, e.g. there was a Sheppard and Lorne ff which started out quite good but
then at the end it was real slash and there had been no warning.
(I noted later she applied one.)
What really got me was after what happened they both returned to Atlantis like nothing had happened.
Sorry, but that does not work for me.......it reflects naivety on the part of the writer, but what is more troubling to me personally is
Lorne happens to be XO of the Atlantis military expedition which means he must continue to work with Sheppard, and given what happened, that is no longer possible due to morale issues. Also it means a court martial if he reports what happened to SGC.
I know. I am looking at it in reality not from a fiction view point, but given my background, I really can't help it.

[kriadydragon.livejournal.com]

I'm actually surprised the authors don't get burned out. I've gotten burned out writing whump at times. I almost ended up getting burned out from writing SGA.

I try to avoid sex scenes like the plague (and in fanfic, pairings). But the times I've ran into it, maybe it's just me, but most of the time it was very out of place. Granted, there are times when even I have to admit that, yes, there is a purpose even if I don't like it (and skip it). But a lot of times my first thought is "they could have done without that." (Don't get me started on crude humor.)

One of my biggest pet peeves is a random sex scene at the worst possible time. The characters are captured and trapped, there's a good chance they may die soon, but rather than find a way out they decide to get it on.