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Okay, so maybe this is simply a matter of me being a lot more aware of certain issues than I used to be but I feel like there's been a steady increase of the attitude that "All religious people are superstitious idiots who think science is evil." I mean, I know the debate of science vs. religion and you either believe in science or you believe in God has been around forever, but I've always considered it one of those incredibly stupid and pointless arguments because while, yes, granted, you do have your religions who totally reject science, as usual it is not the case with every single religion out there.

My faith, for example. We don't see God as some magician who waved his hand and, poof, there was the Earth. We believe he works in natural ways just as much as mysterious ways (as a religious teacher of mine once put it, God has a Ph.d in everything). For us, science doesn't disprove anything, instead it explains a lot. There are scientists out there who believe in God, and instead of their faith being diminished by science, it's increased. Speaking for myself, I adore shows that explore how the Earth might have been made, or the moon, or the galaxy, because it's so fascinating and reminds me just how awesome God's creations are. As for those bits and tiddles of science that I don't agree with... for one, I just don't worry about it. For another, come on, scientists disagree about stuff all the time, and what's fact today may be disproved by tomorrow. Thus why I don't worry about it.

So, yeah, don't give me this crap about it's either science or religion and you can't be a scientist and be religious, or that being religious stifles the need to ask questions and make discoveries. It's sort of like with that Baptist church who protests funerals - they do not represent religion and religious people as a whole. So just because someone says they're Christian don't even assume that means they reject science. And just because someone's a scientist does not automatically mean they don't believe in God.

I've been on this major "don't judge a religion by the fanatics" kick lately. Or, more accurately, "quit it with the religious-shaming" kick. I feel like anti-religious feelings (and I mean really nasty anti-religious feelings) have been sky-rocketing, lately. Then again, I feel there's been a drastic increase of having no respect for other people's opinions and beliefs, period. That it's gone from let's agree to disagree, to you don't agree with me therefore you're stupid, to you don't agree with me therefore you are evil and must be verbally ripped to shreds and shunned (something our family had a personal experience with just last month, thank you very much politics :P I won't go into it except to say that something hurtful and insulting had been said, simply because our political opinions differed from that of someone else).

Date: 2012-11-21 06:35 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] iamhere23.livejournal.com
I don't think they're mutually exclusive, people just argue that they are. I think it's personal anyway, but like you said, there's just no respect for opinions and beliefs. If you don't believe in God, some of the people you know are appalled and try to "save" you. If you do believe, people judge you and don't understand how you can believe in science and God at the same time. I say, believe what you believe and think what you want to think. Whatever it is, there will always be people that believe and think the opposite, but that's just the way it is *shrugs*. We have to learn to make peace with this even though everything would be much simpler if it wasn't so.

Date: 2012-11-21 06:44 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] iamhere23.livejournal.com
"That it's gone from let's agree to disagree, to you don't agree with me therefore you're stupid, to you don't agree with me therefore you are evil and must be verbally ripped to shreds and shunned."

Oh, and this has happened to me too recently. My uncle (who is a religious fanatic) did this to me in Facebook of all places! He verbally ripped me to pieces and condemned me to hell because my best friend is gay. He then proceeded to un-friend me...

I abhor his comments and his behavior and just his... hate, towards everything that's different to him or what he believes in. I don't understand it, but even so I struggle to respect him, even if he doesn't respect me.

Date: 2012-11-22 02:19 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] kriadydragon.livejournal.com
Oi :S I really dislike fanatics of any kind, and sadly they're the ones who always manages to speak the loudest.

Date: 2012-11-22 02:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] kriadydragon.livejournal.com
Heh, it kind of reminds me of fanfiction and all the ship wars, where people will verbally rip you to pieces if you don't agree that character A and character B were meant to be together. It's just... all so pointless, because there is no right or wrong answer.

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